Brian Hi. This is Brian White. Welcome to Season 2, Episode 33 of Celebrity Souls Speak With Brian and Rene’, Interviews From The Otherside: Frank Sinatra with special guest Jim Morrison. My wife, Rene’, is a spirit communicator, she speaks to those on the otherside, and I’ve been a radio personality for over 50 years. The otherside established communication with us because they wish to stay in touch with this dimension. They are our teachers, the invisible knowledge that helps us on our way. They have much to share and hope that those who listen will reflect on their messages.
R Greetings. This podcast is constantly morphing, looking for the best way to pass along the messages I receive. The process I use to speak with the otherside is through automatic writing. I sit down at the computer and type, then I record the conversation. We decided to give our listeners the full experience so I am now recording my interviews as they occur. You may notice a difference, for example, more pauses, as I communicate with them as sometimes it takes a moment for them to answer.
R They seem like strange bedfellows: the Chairman and Mr. Mojo Rising. Frank Sinatra and Jim Morrison were definitely colorful characters in their time. My original intent for this interview was to speak with Frank. Then I came across a quote from Morrison in referring to Sinatra, “No one can touch him,” which refers to Frank’s mad skills. Why not, let’s talk to both of them. So here it is, always unedited and unfiltered.
R Hey Jimbo
J Yes.
R You always hovering around?
J Yup.
R So I am hoping to interview Frank Sinatra.
J No kidding, I can hear.
R Ok, you offer to help me, well help me now. I would like for you to say a few things. I have you quoted as saying “No one can touch him.”
J Yup
R So, come on, if he comes help me out and join in this interview, please.
J Alright.
R Well, is he around?
J Do you think we are all in one room?
R I have no idea. You guys don’t tell me shit.
J You can call him in faster than if I try to find him.
R Alright.
J He’s probably already there just waiting for you… like I do.
R Mr. Sinatra, are you available.
FS Yes I am and I would love Mr. Morrison to join in.
R Mr. Morrison, are you here?
J Yup.
R So, let’s start with Mr. Morrison, in case he gets bored let’s do him first.
FS Ah, so you know Jim.
R Yessir I do. All kidding aside, he has been wonderful to me and I don’t know if I would’ve continued doing this without his support.
FS Well, that’s quite a statement. Jim, how are you?
J Hi Frank, I am very well thank you.
R Have you guys ever played together?
J No, we haven’t.
R Why is that?
J I never see you around when we are jamming.
FS I spend a lot of my time alone. I enjoy having creative time.
J I understand but how about we do something together?
FS Great, I’m up for it.
R So Jim, what is it about Frank that you admire?
J He has a style, he is Frank Sinatra and everybody knows it. That voice is unmistakable. And he is also a great actor, something I never tried.
FS You were such an amazing poet and singer Jim, I don’t know if you would’ve enjoyed acting. The music industry is hard enough.
J I know that. I really didn’t have an interest in acting, I just wanted to be a poet.
FS Well, your poetry, songs, were great but your voice was so beautiful and so untouched. Back in my day, they made you go to coaches and try to change your voice when it was already perfect. I said bullshit on that.
J I tried to make my voice more like yours, I loved the way you crooned.
FS Ah, the croon.
R You both had such amazing talent here. It’s only a shame that I can’t bring your music to Earth. I hope someday that someone will find a way to make this happen. Maybe I need to speak to Mr. Tesla….
J That would be amazing but you know we do not sound the way we did there.
R That’s ok, music is music, no matter how it sounds. I’ll work on that. So Frank, Jim, and many others have expressed their displeasure with the record companies you were signed to. I know you were with RCA Victor, Columbia, Capitol, and in 1960 you started Reprise records. You told me in a previous conversation,
“It doesn’t matter if it’s singing, playing music, or acting it’s all the same, get as much as they can from us then dump us and find some new blood. It’s really bad, thinking that you are being taken care of when in reality you are being robbed. It seems like everyone in your life wants something from you, people don’t really care about you, just what you can give them.”
FS Yes, that is how it is there.
R So what do you do? How can performers stop this?
FS Been trying to figure that out for a very long time. As long as people will agree to their terms, things will not change. You don’t want to do it, fine.
R I get it. It seems like you pay a price for getting what you want. You want to be famous, well then do this.
FS Pretty much so.
R It’s a shame, I don’t know how it could change though anytime soon.
FS Not while humankind is led by money.
R That’s right but the conversation can get started.
FS Yes it can and we can start it.
R We have started it and we just need to convince those coming up that it isn’t worth their soul to sign with those who do not have their best interest at heart.
R Well, at least we are trying to create awareness. Jim left, thank you, Jim.
FS That is one talented man.
R Yes he is. So a few things…
R You were 13-½ pounds and your mother was 5’ tall. They pulled you out with forceps and damaged your face. You were left for dead and your grandmother picked you up and resuscitated you. You and your mother survived but what a horrible way to come into this world. The scars were evident, what impact did they have on you especially growing up.
FS Oh, it was horrible. I was teased as a child and never really got over it. I was very self-conscious and would only allow cameras to photograph my right side. Now I realized I should’ve focused on the fact that I was alive. That is what was important, not some stupid scar.
R Tell me about the Rat Pack. Joey Bishop was your best friend?
FS Me, Joey Bishop, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford, Dean Martin. We were just a group of goof-offs that hit it off. There were so many rumors, all stupid.
R So none of it was true.
FS Depends on what you are asking about.
R Ok, let’s move on.
FS Smart girl.
R Tell me about your death and transition to there? What did you mean when you said “I lost” to your wife when you passed.
FS HAHA, well I had a bet that I would live to 100.
R With the RATPACK?
FS Mostly them but there were others. It was a joke but it seems to be a big topic of discussion.
R So, can you describe your transition?
FS You mean when I died? I had a pain in my chest and next thing I know I am in a place that I am not familiar with. My parents and other friends and relatives were there. I didn’t have the tunnel or any of the other things people report. I was alive then I wasn’t.
R Describe the place if you remember, I know it's been a while.
FS That’s really it, just the pain and then I was here. The place itself was confusing, I didn’t understand what was happening at first. Then my family explained it to me and I realized that I didn’t have that body anymore. I was taken to a place where I got to choose my “look”, clothes, etc. I chose to be young Frank. That is how I appear to those there who can see me.
R I understand there are classes and education available, do you participate?
FS Yes, I do enjoy the education. I have learned a lot about who I really am and how things really work. Humans have no clue how wrong they are to deny the afterlife and life on other planets and galaxies.
R What were some of your other lives?
FS I have had many. I was a laborer, a carpenter, a midwife, a preacher, a housewife, so many different lifetimes. My last lifetime was by far the most satisfying yet, I loved singing and acting but there was so much conflict in that life.
R Are you returning to Earth for another life?
FS I have things to clear up and will decide how I want to do it. I am not sure yet.
R Do you mentor those here.
FS There and other galaxies. There are other civilizations that we are able to assist.
R Do you visit here?
FS Occasionally, but I don’t spend much time there.
R What advice do you have for humanity?
FS Just stop. All the silliness, the quest for power and money and sex it means nothing in the big picture. Humans don’t realize this isn’t a free ride you pay for things that you do that are not part of the experience you are supposed to have. I know there isn’t a guidebook or directions but you know right from wrong and you must live on the right side or you will either repeat your experience on Earth or make it up somewhere else. Just do the right things, it’s not that hard when you realize you are just a small portion of the bigger picture.
R You have given us a lot to think about and I thank you for your contribution to mankind through your entertainment while you were here and your advice from there.
FS You are very welcome. We appreciate what you are trying to accomplish and are behind you.
R Talk again soon? There is much more to discuss.
FS We’ll do it my way.
R Yessir. Oh, this isn’t the end of the story. I did this interview on May 2. On May 18th I received the following communication:
R Hi, Mr. Sinatra, are you looking for me?
FS How did you guess?
R The Sinatra concert I've been listening to this afternoon in my head.
FS Yes, it was me.
R How can I help you, sir? What's going on?
FS I was just wondering when you were going to put on our interview.
R Yes, it's in line.
FS It's in line.
R Yes sir, it's in line. I've got two interviews ahead that are getting ready to run.
FS Okay I was just checking on it.
R Okay, It will be, today's Tuesday the 18th. I'll probably have it up and running by the end of the week. Is that okay?
FS Yeah, I guess it's going to have to be.
R Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were in a hurry.
FS I'm not, but when somebody interviews me, then I expect to see or hear soon.
R Okay. That's not quite how I work. I have not forgotten about you. Your interview with Jim was very important to me. And I try not to play favorites with anybody. I do them in order of how they appear. I did not mean to get on the wrong side of the chairman, as my husband said.
FS Oh, your husband knows who I am.
R Huh? Oh, Mr. Sinatra, everybody knows who you are, sir.
FS All right, then we'll get back to work. I'll be looking for it.
R Okay, sir. Thank you. And I'll be talking to you again soon.
FS Okay.
And 2 days later I picked up my Airpods to listen to a webinar, put them in, and guess what was on? Yup, Frank Sinatra singing. Now, I haven’t listened to Sinatra music lately. So I went through all the programs on my phone that were open and nope, no music programs open. Coincidence? No. I contacted Frank and he said he was just checking on my progress.
Ok, I give up. I moved this interview to the front of the line. Don’t mess with The Chairman, living or dead.
